Guilty Gear Xrd ~Sign~ (ARC) (Página 1 de 3)

Con respecto a la cuestión de los derechos, y para tenerlo claro de una buena vez, ¿puede ser que Sega los tenga solamente para las versiones de recreativa y no las hogareñas?

El único título hogareño en el que recuerdo haber visto su logo fue en la conversión para PS2 de Slash.

I couldn't tell they were 3D models until the camera rotated.  What I don't get is why they wouldn't try for Third Strike-quality animation if they're not manually drawing frames.

Primer "test" público:

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201308/09038147.html

http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/690/690981/

http://www.radiokaikan.jp/press/?p=17669

I'm suspecting it may have to do with optimizing resources for the PlayStation 3 port, so to not go over its 256MB of VRAM, nor overtax its relatively slow 550MHz GPU. They chose Unreal Engine, which is mostly optimized for performing at 30 FPS on seventh generation consoles, so I guess they want to be extra careful there. Also I must admit I don't know what are the RingEdge 2's specs, though it has been confirmed the game will run at 1280×720 there.

I wonder if they'll at least have higher resolution textures for the PS4 port (ideally coupled with higher poly-count character models).

http://www.4gamer.net/games/216/G021678/20130920032/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKjaWl_UbCc#t=26

"Kanchoo" para todos para acercarnos aún más al "anime" barato.

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I'm not sure whether or not you're implying there that both games are aiming for different visual styles and therefore, they aren't really comparable, but if you are, I think you're missing the point. I want to believe you aren't since you already said you couldn't tell they were polygons at first, but then it seems like you can't tell which one looks better, which comes off a little surprising.

You call those "issues"? You can zoom-in without "pixelization" on a sprite too by way of the same graphic filters you apply on a 3-D model and its textures (can't see how that's a good thing, though), but are "cinematics", alternate costumes and proper asymetry that important now? So much as to prefer them over accurate colors, absence of blurriness, measured outlines, controlled shapes, fine details, visual precision and, to sum it up, a natural way in every respect of doing 2-D animation?

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I don't see how you'll get all that with Xrd better than with BB or P4U series, but to each his own. I myself, even if I could ignore the fact that making a 2-D fighting game with real-time graphics is a conceptual abomination and therefore, a step back no matter what, just can't tolerate the ugly re-designs and character art they're showing for this. Good thing I was never really into the series, I guess.

I'm far from being a 3-D expert, but bold outlines are usually present in cel-shaded polygons. It's used to hide or alleviate unnatural-looking junctures and edges. But yeah; normally, they could have made them less evident here, but I believe that with the loss of some consistency -- they need everything that can contribute to the anime/2-D illusion they're after.

And I don't see the similarities with Daemon Bride 'cept for the lack of detail and bland colors:

Right. But then you should mention the downside for that -- if the frames stay on-model, there's no place for intended abstraction in that regard, either. Many animation patterns look a bit off in GGX indeed, but a good artist will break the mass-preservation rule eventually to emphasize a particular aspect like, say, the perspective, with better results.

Are they?

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The heck? Where's the anti-aliasing in the BB or GGX sprites I've posted?

I'd swear I read that with Xrd they indeed are doing that. I'm not the best to talk, but BB or P4U's complexity are closer to GGXX' than to SF IV's, that's for sure. P4U2 is supposedly getting a more technical system too.

I think there are ways to get past each approach's weakness here. With dot art, if staying on-model is paramount on some (or most) animations, the animators could create little 3D models of the characters (think basic wireframe and skeletal models), animate those, transform each key frame into dot art, and then add the bells and whistles. Transforming polygon models by intentionally "breaking" and "twisting" their aspect should be easier to do now with the much higher poly-counts (while an aesthetic piece of shit, Dhalsim's limbs do extend in SF4, after all), though I don't know just how crazy they can really get there. I want to see how they pull off stuff like Chipp's burst, or even his standard air slash without ending up in a mess of stretched-out textures.

As for the models' detail, I guess they could apply a finer, less aggressive anti-aliasing algorithm so to make the characters look more crisp ('cause I guess they won't be able to use a proper AA technique on a 60 FPS game, at least not on PS3), though I don't know what the current advances on that field are. Loss of detail when zooming in is likely unavoidable without something like LOD, and again I doubt that's possible to do on PS3.

Tercer "test" público, ya finalizado:

http://www.4gamer.net/games/216/G021678/20131205041/