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icycalm escribió:

So you want 4 articles to take up only a single slot on the frontpage? We could do it, but the pages would end up getting less traffic than otherwise.

As for an index page devoted to Postback -- there is nothing easier than this to create. All I would need is a 750x175 banner with the Postback logo. And I would also add a section on the sidebar of the frontpage where all the latest Postback updates will be linked. And of course every page would also link directly to the respective Spanish page.

It's just an idea. You're the one who must decide the form it should take in your site. I'm not sure now if I'd like an Insomnia where some stuff is somehow differentiated from the rest, and that includes the layout.

I could redesign a bit the current layout for the English version, with Insomnia's color and even brand-new Postback EX or whatever logos, but keep in mind that you could be facing some problems if you wanted to redesign it all by yourself one day --essentially, that you'd have to do it in a per-page basis--. So just say what you'd like.

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I would prefer the Postback translations to look just like Postback, only with Insomnia's color scheme. The only other additions I would want on each page would be:

-The link back to the original Spanish page
-An Insomnia logo somewhere, perhaps next to the Postback logo, which would link to my frontpage
-A link to the forum, pointing to the thread which would be dedicated to discussing each article/review

As for possible future redesigns -- I can redesign the rest of the site and leave the Postback pages as they are. If I want to change their color scheme, I can just edit them page by page, or add a little .php file that does it automatically. I know exactly how to do that, and it's not a big deal.

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Gotcha. Pass a translation on to me whenever you have it since I'd need to get an idea of how big the text reduction is with the language change. It's the only issue so far.

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You can start on the translation we already have, and I'll also send you the two new ones to check later today.

Also, one other thing I forgot. There also needs to be a link from each article/review back to the index. This could be the Postback logo, so that when someone clicks on it they get sent to the Insomnia Postback index... However, for obvious reasons, it would be better if the Postback logo sends people to the Postback frontpage. So you'd need to add another link somewhere on the page which would point to http://insomnia.ac/postback/, which would be the Postback index. Kind of how in my articles it says "» back to commentary index".

So there need to be 4 additions to the existing template.

By the way, if you could send me a 750x175 Postback-themed banner I would set up the index right away, so that we can start tweaking it until we are happy with it. We already have one article to place in there anyways...

Also, we can insert the disclaimer (that says that you are not happy with the translations but that they are preferable to babefish) at the top of the index, so that we don't have to burden every single article/review with it.

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Another thing I forgot: there needs to be a "Translated by..." line somewhere too.

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icycalm escribió:

You can start on the translation we already have, and I'll also send you the two new ones to check later today.

Nope, I meant "a translation of a review". Other articles' text doesn't need to be aligned with any image and inserting it is trivial; the reviews are the ones which may give me some headache.


And don't you think it's better if the English version changes the site name a bit since it's indeed external to Postback? If "Postback EX" sounds too silly to you, we can find something else.

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Recap escribió:

Nope, I meant "a translation of a review". Other articles' text doesn't need to be aligned with any image and inserting it is trivial; the reviews are the ones which may give me some headache.

Well, I'd need to post the two articles I already have before I can ask the guys to translate more stuff... I really wouldn't feel good asking them to do more, when they've sent me these translations almost a year ago and I am still sitting on them. Besides, one of them is already working on the rather long arcade stick article, so I think it would be best if we continued down this course until all the articles are finished. If you don't feel like beginning with the articles, then I can just post them using the Insomnia template, and we can replace them with the proper template later...

Recap escribió:

And don't you think it's better if the English version changes the site name a bit since it's indeed external to Postback? If "Postback EX" sounds too silly to you, we can find something else.

Postback EX sounds just fine.

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750 x 175 No. 1:

http://i44.tinypic.com/10yqc7d.png

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750 x 175 No. 2:

http://i40.tinypic.com/zsmm80.png

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Need some color reworking since those greys could get lost depending on the monitor's settings.

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750 x 175 No. 3:

http://i44.tinypic.com/1o0evq.png



750 x 175 No. 4:

http://i41.tinypic.com/2exyoi1.png



750 x 175 No. 5:

http://i40.tinypic.com/21aznyw.png

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750 x 175 No. 6:

http://i39.tinypic.com/10rif12.png



750 x 175 No. 7:

http://i39.tinypic.com/e7hqx3.png

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I prefer number 2 more, because I like that "ex" font more than the other one, but I used number 3 because the others had a white border which clashes with the page design.

http://insomnia.ac/postbackex/

I think it looks pretty good. Now that you know what the page looks like you might be able to come up with a better-fitting header... Perhaps something with less empty space would be preferable, but either way, I am still content with what we already have.

Note that all the images are currently being leached off of geedorah's server, but this will be fixed eventually.

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Oh ok. Just saw number 6. Can you redo it without the white border?

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Sure, but! No. 6 has some cropped motifs. Without the white border they aren't going to look well. In which sense does the border clash with the page design?

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I uploaded 6. Check it for yourself.

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Also, the non-reviews index buttons must definitely be 'negativized' if you're going to preserve them. I'd go with a single text format for now, though.

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Actually, I think it's too "busy" now. 3 looked better, no?

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icycalm escribió:

I uploaded 6. Check it for yourself.

Oh, I see. what about making that header's width a bit smaller?

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No. 8: http://i40.tinypic.com/6fy1bc.png (733 x 175)

Try it without the Insomnia and the browsing lines (just to see the effect).

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Recap escribió:

Also, the non-reviews index buttons must definitely be 'negativized' if you're going to preserve them. I'd go with a single text format for now, though.

I don't really have any image processing apps on this laptop. If you can do the negatives yourself and pass them on to me, I will upload them to my server, so that we'll have them for when the time comes, and also just to see now how everything will eventually look.

Of course when the page goes live I'll remove all the icons and replace them with a few text links, until we have enough material for full issues.

Recap escribió:
icycalm escribió:

I uploaded 6. Check it for yourself.

Oh, I see. what about making that header's width a bit smaller?

There's nothing I can do on my end. The image has to be 750x175, otherwise the page layout breaks down. You could add black borders to the right and left... I am not sure it would be advisable though, because you'd have to somehow manage to line up the left side of the wide border with the INSOMNIA text at top right...

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Recap escribió:

No. 8: http://i40.tinypic.com/6fy1bc.png (733 x 175)

Try it without the Insomnia and the browsing lines (just to see the effect).

I uploaded it. But I can't remove anything, because these are php files. The stuff at the top works site-wide. If I change anything I will mess up the entire site.

48 (editado por icycalm 11-03-2009 02:02:12)

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This actually looks pretty good, if we could get it to move a few pixels to the right. You just need to add a black border...

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Alright. No. 9: http://i42.tinypic.com/n54e4y.png

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Better. Still not entirely happy with it though... Compare with the site's frontpage, and see how much nicer the thinner black borders look...

Anyway. That's enough for one day. If you come up with any more ideas we'll try them out.