Proper acknowledgement

It's up to you. My "news" get stolen once and again even by mainstream sites I dislike and internet people who dislike me, so whatever you do, it'll be alright. (Just make sure of not adding extra mistakes in the process - the title of Success' new DS game is "Itsuwari no Ronde", not "Itsuwari no Rondo").

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What I tried to say is that you don't need to and there is no prob if you don't.

Rondo/ronde - the kana says "rondo" because that's how the Japanese read "ronde", which is French. I thought you had really read that "shit that makes me LOL" thread at Gamengai. Anyhow, you have the very same case of "Senko no Ronde" here, so it should be familiar.

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Because _I_ didn't follow it is not a good enough reason? ... OK, I'll go. Grev's game shouldn't be referred to as "Senko no Ronde" "because that's how Grev themselves decided to transliterate it", Grev's game title should have the word "Ronde" because that's indeed _the only_ way to "transliterate" it, much like, say, "Dynamite Deka" is the only way to romanize the name of this Sega's arcade game, for instance.

In order to be really accurate, we're not "transliterating" from Japanese to roman alphabet, it's Grev the ones who translitered the word from French to Japanese. They just used an odd way to do it (not so odd these days, actually, especially in these media) - by using kanji instead of katakana (yeah, even if that kanji originally isn't read "rondo" at all, but the nature of the Japanese language allows this kind of licences; you "can" invent any kanji's pronounciation to some extent). So we're just taking the original word in its original alphabet, much like when we write "Dynamite" for "Dynamite Deka".

Such is exactly the case of "Itsuware no Ronde". It's true; we haven't seen it in official documents yet, but we once again have two hints thanks to the furigana for "rinbukyoku" (the kanji used for that part of the title). Firstly, it's in katakana and it is not a possible (orthodox) reading for that kanji, so we only can have here another of those puns with foreing words the Japanese love. The two only (reasonable) possibilities for that katakana form are either, the Italian "rondo" and the French "ronde" (we could even consider the Spanish "rondo" (= "bull ring") or even the English "ronde" (= "script with a round look for its characters"), but, as I said, let's just take the reasonable options). These "puns" happen to involve indeed playing with semantics; the kanji's meaning usually has a similar meaning to the foreign word. That leaves only one choice here if you care to translate; "rinbukyoku" means "dance in circles", which is exactly what a "ronde" is, unlike an Italian "rondo".

After checking some of your news posts at Insomnia, I'm finding out that you mention "Ruliweb" as source for the scans. Most likely you already know it and it's just the way you like to do it, but let me say that Ruliweb is never the original source. All of their mag scans are stolen from 2 Channel. I link Ruliweb only because it re-uploads the scans to its own hosting service and I can always be sure they won't be down anytime soon (aside of being easier to find), but believe me -- I hate it. They (its posters) rarely mention the original source, much like Jeux-France, Go Nintendo or many others. But hey, at least Western visitors of Ruliweb can't make any money for these bastards.

Worth mentioning too (though I hardly believe this thread is being read by anybody else) that it indeed was "Itsuwari no Rondo". !!

Oh, forgive me. I thought I was quite clear in my last post there regarding this subject. Hence my "though I hardly believe this thread is being read by anybody else" line.

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I'll be honest.  I probably don't do as much link back checking as I probably should on my original sources.  If the site I link to ends up giving credit elsewhere, I'll post both sources.  If not, I just cite them as where I find the information.  I'll try to be a bit more conscious about it in the future.  I'll also be sure to fix the link on my blog to go to the Postback forums in the above post (from Arcade Renaissance). 

I've seen your information cited a couple of times before, but I really haven't spent that much time on your site previously.  It is a great treasure trove of information though - so kudos to you.

I do agree with what you are saying. But even though you may despise Neo-Arcadia's underhanded way of doing things, there is a flip side to this coin.

Neo-Arcadia is the best French-speaking source of arcade news on the net. Is this true or is it not? Are they providing a service to those who don't speak Japanese and who don't have the balls to try navigating Japanese websites? Any way you look at it, Neo-Arcadia is providing a service. So at least SOME of their traffic is deserved. It's just too bad that they are not being honest about how they work.

And you know what, I bet that if they were being honest they would have had even MORE traffic. They are just too stupid and too small-minded to see this.

This is true for those of their readers who are comfortable with English. Most of them are not, however. The French- or Spanish-speaking people who are comfortable with English are already reading those other sites you mention.

For people who are only comfortable with their native language, however, sites like Neo-Arcadia are providing a valuable service. They could be doing a better job, but what can you do. At least they are not charging anyone for their poor service.

(And please don't tell me that all young Spanish and French people these days are comfortable with English. It is astounding the degree to which this is not true.)

I once posted on the Shmup forum for a bit (the French one) and I saw loads of people there who couldn't put together a single half-decent sentence in English. Those people, even if they ARE aware of the better English arcade resource websites, still want to have a frontpage that talks about these games in their own language, even if it does so poorly.

I mean it's only natural. It's why people like Gaijin Punch and Tim Rogers still check English websites, even though they can get a lot of the same information much quicker (and oftentimes more reliably) from the original source.

But yeah. RyanDG is just lazy, and so are many Western bloggers. But at least he is not deceitful.

Yeah.  Just a little bit.  Though I would like to make up an elaborate excuse about how it's because of my extremely busy "real life", I know that everyone is in the same position that I am in and it is simply an excuse for me not doing more background checks on other sites' sources when its not clear what the original source was.  It is something that I'm going to try to work on a bit more (even though, in a lot of cases my Japanese language skills are pretty rough around the edges) - because above all else, it is just basic common courtesy to give the appropriate credit where credit is due.

By the way icy - I enjoyed your review on Guilty Gear II Overture plus the Overview you posted today.  I've been considering importing Guilty Gear II Overture but haven't gotten around to doing so yet.  You've piqued my interest enough though that I think I'm going to finally do it...